日前，由白岩松作序，“辞职司长”王振耀的新书《不变的是原则，万变的是方法》出版。该书作者王振耀曾担任民政部社会公益与慈善事业司司长，2010年辞职下海，引起轰动。

a,By BaiYanSong preface,"Resign priests"Shi new book[The same is the principle,All change is method]publishing.The author of this book shi served as the ministry of civil affairs social welfare and charity company priests,2010 resign sea,sensation.

　　该书出版之际，公务员考试依然火爆。对于那些立志要做公务员的人而言，该书也成为关注的焦点。新书上架之际，作者接受本报采访，探讨当下公务员热话题。他表示，希望教会广大读者，特别是想进入公务员队伍的读者如何处理好上下级关系。

The book publishing of,Civil service examination is still hot.For those who aspire to do civil servants of the people,The book has become the focus of attention.The book shelf,The author accept our interview,Discusses the civil servants hot topic.He said,Hope to teach the readers,Especially want to enter the civil service readers how to deal with good hierarchy.

跳出官场看官场 Jump out of officialdom see officialdom

　　王振耀，民政部社会公益与慈善事业司前司长，2010年6月，他辞去司长职位，赴任北京师范大学公益研究院院长。

shi,The ministry of civil affairs public welfare and charity department before the chief priests,In June 2010,He resigned as priests position,Go to one's post Beijing normal university institute of public welfare.

　　不久前，这位个性鲜明的前官员带着新书《不变的是原则，万变的是方法一位高级官员的行政机密》重回公众视野。跳出官场看官场，以学者的身份面向大众畅谈现代国家建设的细节，国家机关的运作程序、社会流行的种种误区、公务员的工作细节、官场运作的逻辑以及未来政府发展的大趋势等。

Not long ago,The personality is distinct former officials with new books[The same is the principle,All change is method a senior official of the administrative confidential]Return to public view.Jump out of officialdom see officialdom,To the identity of the scholars to the general public, talk about the details of the construction of modern country,State organs of operation procedure/Social popular variety of error/The work of our civil service details/Officialdom operation logic and future trend of development of the government.

　　在此之前，王振耀是一位“实干官员”，推动过不少有力度的改革，但是面向大众出书还是首次。他坦言按照大众阅读的标准来写作是一个很大的挑战，希望能和读者分享他从政的经验和感受，甚至引发大家的批评。

Before this,Shi is a"Action officials",Promote a has the strength of the reform,But to the general public for the first time or book.He said according to the standard of people's reading to writing is a big challenge,Hope to share and readers in politics he experience and feelings,Even cause everyone's criticism.

　　谈起《不变的是原则，万变的是方法》的出版缘起，王振耀说：“我辞去司长这件事成为2010年的一个新闻，因此我接受了相当多记者的采访，都与救灾、低保、社会福利等社会事务密切相关。当时一个编辑找到我，建议我写一本关于国家机关运作的书，他认为我对一些政策的完善，具有普遍的意义，可以视为国家现代化进程的探索案例。”他坦言：新书里面没有一句“官话”，有些话这次可以痛痛快快讲出来了。

about[The same is the principle,All change is method]Published just,Shi said:"I quit my priests it becomes 2010 a news,So I took quite a lot of reporter's interview,And disaster relief/low/Social welfare and social affairs closely related.When an edit find me,Suggested that I write a book about the operation of the state organs book,He thinks I to some policy is perfect,Has the universal significance,Can be regarded as national modernization process of exploration cases."He said:There is no a new book"mandarin",Some words this can spit it speak out.

福利制度驱使公务员热 The welfare system driven by civil servants heat

　　2012年，公务员考试热力不减，人数再创新高，已达到150万。那么多年轻人想进入体制内，作为一个从体制中出走的人，王振耀对此怎么看？

In 2012,,Civil service examination thermal immortalization,Record number,Has reached 1.5 million.So many young people want to enter in the system,As a man from the system to run away,Shi this opinion?

　　他表示，“我在书中已经解释了公务员考试热的必然性。最为主要的原因是福利制度的驱使，特别是工作较为稳定，工作的规范性强，又有一定的体面性，还能够为社会大众服务，归根到底的原因是中国‘官本位’这个文化情结导致的。这些多重要素，自然鼓励大家愿意进入公务员队伍。”他认为，传统的文化就是认为“万般皆下品，唯有读书高”，读书的最高标准就是科举考试当官，这个文化传统不改，福利制度不完善，要避免公务员热是很困难的。

He said,"I am in the book have explained the necessity of civil service examination heat.The most main reason is driven by the welfare system,Especially work more stable,The standardization of the strong work,And have some decent sex,Can also for the public service,In the final analysis is the cause of China‘ranking’The culture in the complex.These multiple elements,Natural encouraged everyone would like to enter the civil service."He thinks,Traditional culture is to think"All are inferior,Only reading high",Reading is the highest standard of imperial examination officer,The cultural traditions do not change,Welfare system is not perfect,To avoid civil servants heat is very difficult.

　　从司长这个位置辞职后，王特别想对考生们说，“外面的天地其实也很宽广。很多年轻人有机会进行更多的管理创新与社会创新，并且也能够施展身手。并且，在实行退休制度、任期制度的条件下，不管任何领导岗位，总有离开的一天，最终还是要回归社会，所以不要把公务员职位看得太重了。另外，中国的社会体制改革客观上已经拉开大幕，这里更有吸引人的不同体验。”

From the priests the position after the resignation,The king special want to students said,"The outside heaven and earth is also very broad.Many young people have the opportunity for more management innovation and social innovation,And also can be cast skill.and,In a retirement system/Under the condition of tenure system,No matter any leadership positions,There is always leave a day,Eventually return to society,So don't put too much importance to the civil service job.In addition,China's social system reform has opened the objectively,There is more attractive different experience."

国考热跟尊严追求都有关 Countries with dignity test hot pursuit of all relevant

　　广州日报：您说“国考热”最主要的原因是福利制度的驱使。有分析认为现在权力的附加价值太大，理所当然成为公众追逐的对象。您怎么看这种观点？

Guangzhou daily:You said"Countries heat test"The main reason is that the welfare system driven.Have analyzed that now the power of the additional value is too big,As the public for the object of Angle.How do you see this point of view?

　　王振耀：说福利制度的驱使，是从最为广泛意义上讲的。即使在发达国家，许多富豪宁愿投资巨大也要参与公共职位的竞争，这并不仅仅是一个权力附加值的问题，因为权力也有公共服务的追求，也有尊严的追求，绝不仅仅是多得到物质的福利。

shi:Said the welfare system driven,From the most widely sense of.Even in developed countries,Many rich would rather invest huge also want to participate in public position competition,This is not just a power added value problem,Because the right and the pursuit of public service,Also has the pursuit of dignity,Is not just for the welfare of the material.

　　我专门请教过菲律宾的教授，他说虽然工资高不可能绝对避免腐败，但工资低就必然腐败。他比较了新加坡与菲律宾的现象，菲律宾总统每个月的工资大约2000美元，新加坡总理年薪大约是200万美元，你在新加坡很难发现腐败，但在菲律宾，则是相当普遍的，几乎每个总统都是如此，这和民主制度、多党制度没有太多关系。

I specially consulted the Philippines professor,He said that although the high wages can't absolutely avoid corruption,But low wages will be corrupt.He compared the Singapore and the Philippines phenomenon,Philippine President each month's salary about 2000 dollars,Singapore prime minister salary is about 2 million dollars,You can be difficult to find in Singapore corruption,But in the Philippines,It is quite common,Almost every President is so,This and the democratic system/Multi-party cooperation system without too much relationship.

　　广州日报：您如何看待社会目前的“道德滑坡”与“不信任危机”？

Guangzhou daily:How do you see the society at present"Moral landslide"and"Distrust crisis"?

　　王振耀：我不认为现在的社会道德滑坡。我在汶川地震救灾的现场看到了我们民族的希望，这不是一个道德滑坡的民族所能表现出来的。至于个别的道德沦丧现象，哪个国家没有？过去舆论不透明，许多恶的现象没有报道出来，大家并不知道。现在及时报道，实际上是民族道德正在大提升。

shi:I don't think now of the social moral landslide.I am in wenchuan earthquake disaster site to see the hope of our nation,This is not a moral landslide people can show.As for the individual moral decay phenomenon,Which country is not?The past opinion opaque,Many evil phenomenon has not been reported out,You don't know.Now report,Is actually the nation's moral is big ascension.

　　至于“不信任的危机”，在市场经济时代，在民主法治逐步进展的过程中，是一种相当自然的现象。但严格意义上说这不是危机，而是一个现代国家的常态。传统国家认为官员要以身作则，是道德模范，是青天大老爷，是阳光雨露，这是秦汉以后所形成的传统。现代国家的理念则是官员都要接受监督，并且还认为绝对的权力意味着绝对的腐败。我们现在的缺陷是社会监督机制还没有完善，还是靠传统的检举揭发来进行监督。没有一种机制来解决这个问题，社会参与的正规渠道不通顺，这是当前需要着力解决的问题。在网络时代，传统的自上而下信息传递机制已经转变为扁平式的机制，社会机制的深刻变化必然要求有效的变革，公众的参与体制是相当重要的。

As for"Don't trust crisis",In the market economy,In the democracy and the rule of law in the process of gradual progress,Is a quite natural phenomenon.But the strict sense this is not crisis,It is a modern country's normal.Traditional countries think officials to lead by example,Is moral models,Is a master,Is sunshine rain and dew,This is after the qin and han dynasty by the formation of the traditional.The concept of modern state is officials have to accept supervision,And also believe that absolute power mean absolute corruption.We are now the defect is the social supervision mechanism is not perfect,Or by the traditional reveal to carry out supervision.Does not have a mechanism to solve the problem,Social participation in the regular channel not smooth,This is the need to solve the problem.In the Internet age,The traditional top-down information transfer mechanism have been transformed into a flat type mechanism,The social mechanism of the profound changes necessary for effective change,The public participation system is very important.

王振耀传授公务员面试技巧 Shi teach civil servants interview skills

　　1.有条件的话选择一个面试培训班，最好选择那种时间为面试前一个礼拜的面试培训，这样可能还会附带一些猜题，有一定的实战效果。

1. The conditional word choice an interview training class,Had better choose the time for a week before the interview interview training,This may be with some quizzes,Have certain practical effect.

　　2.一般公务员得知笔试结果距离面试有一个月左右的时间，在这一个月里，尽量抽时间每天都看一下报纸和电视新闻，关注一下近期的时事热点，重点关注经济和政治，因为这些很可能成为面试考题。

2. General civil servants that written test results distance interview have a month time,In this month,Try to take time every day to look at the newspapers and TV news,Pay close attention to recent current event hot spot,Focus on economic and political,Because these may well become a interview questions.

　　3.面试的前一天最好洗个澡，整理一下发型，男生最好刮干净胡子，女生最好束起长发，弄个清洁干净的形象，不要熬夜，早睡保持精神，当晚准备好面试所需要的各种东西，比如准考证、身份证等等。

3. An interview the day before had better take a bath,Tidy hair,The boy had better scraper beard,The girl had better gird long hair,Get a clean image,Don't stay up late,Early to bed and keep the spirit,The ready to interview need all kinds of things,Such as admission ticket/Id card, etc..

　　4.面试当天最好穿正装，目前公务员面试最流行的正装为深色衣裤，一般为黑色西服西裤，内配浅色衬衫，一般为白色，男生可再配上一条领带。当然也可以穿其他服装，但是最好是深色配套的，切忌颜色太过鲜艳。

4. On the day of the interview is best to wear a suit,At present the most popular interviews the dress for dark suit,The general is black suit trousers,With light color in the shirt,General for white,The boy can deserve to go up again a tie.Of course can also wear other clothes,But it is dark matching,Color of avoid by all means is too bright.

　　5.因为考生一般都是坐在房间的正中间，所以坐姿一定要端正，双脚平行靠拢，不要抖动，上身挺直，抬头正视考官，双手放在桌面上或者放于两腿上。

5. Because students are generally sitting in the middle of the room,So we must take a correct posture,Feet parallel close,Don't wobble,Upper body straight,Looked up to face up to the,Hands on the table or put on two legs.

　　6.答题的时候尽量脱稿，这是能拉分的一大方法，回答的时候不要低着头，尽量正视面前的考官，同时照顾到旁边的考官，回答的时候不要想着一溜烟地快速把答案都说出来，这样万一卡住了就非常明显，容易扣分，可以稍微放缓一些语速，在卡的时候迅速地看一下白纸上写的关键词，马上再接着回答，这样就会缓和不少。

6. The answer when I can be completed,It can be a great way to pull points,Don't answer low head,As far as possible before the face of the examiner,At the same time to take the next,Answer don't think swiftly fast will speak the answer,So one thousand stuck is very obvious,Easy points,Can be a little slow some speed,In the card quickly look at the white paper to write on the keywords,And then immediately answer,This will ease a lot.

对话王振耀 Dialogue shi

从民间的角度看问题 From the perspective of the people

　　广州日报：此次写作是面向大众写作，有哪些不一样的感受？写这本书花了多长时间？写作过程中是否遭遇过瓶颈？

Guangzhou daily:The writing is writing to the general public,What are the different feel to it?Write the book spent a long time?The process of writing is encountered bottleneck?

　　王振耀：非常不一样的感受。这是第一次面向大众写作，要求不能进行理论探讨，要写得有故事性，这是我从来没有从事的工作。最为困难的事情在于，编辑要求一定要写自身的经历，结合自己的经验来谈体会，又要有一定的文采，这对我是一个很大的挑战。因为写理论文章习惯了，有一定立论，再找论据，文章主要是与同一领域的研究者进行讨论，大家都有一些共同的兴趣点。但要面向大众，那就完全不一样了！

shi:Very different feel to it.This is the first time writing to the general public,Requirements are not theoretical discussion,To write a story,This is I have never engaged in the work.The most difficult thing is,Edit requirements must write their own experience,In conjunction with their experience to talk about experience,And it should be a literary grace,For me it is a big challenge.Because the theory article writing habit,Have certain theoretical,To find evidence,This article mainly is with the same field of researchers are discussed,We all have some common interests point.But should be geared to the needs of the public,It would be totally different!

　　写这本书用了半年多的时间，有的时候真是挖空心思。因为这不是在写回忆录，但要在琐碎的行政事务中发现工作的哲理，还是需要进行一番思索的。所幸的是，我在行政工作的实践中还是比较注意思索，因而能够较为容易地突破瓶颈。

Write the book used for more than half a year,Sometimes really think hard.Because it is not writing memoirs,But in trivial administrative affairs found work of philosophy,Still need a speculation.The good news is that,I am in the practice of administrative work and pay more attention to your thinking,Thus can more easily to break through the bottleneck.

　　广州日报：您说此次写书是“离开官场看官场”，心态上与在民政部任职时相比有哪些变化？身份的转变，给写作带来了哪些改变？

Guangzhou daily:You say this is to write a book"Leave officialdom see officialdom",With the ministry of civil affairs office in mind when compared with what changes?Identity change,To bring the writing what change?

　　王振耀：此次写作当然是以学者的身份进行的，因为我现在的确是教授。离开行政机关看行政机关，当然在心态上会有较大的变化，最为重要的，会从民间的角度来看问题，体谅民间的不容易。比如，离开机关后才感到机关作风与社会大众诉求的差距。身份的变化，会使写作更容易些。因为行政机关客观上不鼓励官员的个性，我们许多口号希望创新，其实作为行政官员，重点是执行性的创新，不应该把行政工作当作一般性的理论来探索，不应该有太大的行政随意性。（采写及图记者 吴波）

shi:The writing of course is the identity of the scholars of,Because I now really is to teach.Leave the administrative organ see administrative organs,Of course in the state of mind will have a greater change,Most important,From the folk's perspective,Understanding of the people is not easy.Such as,Leave authority before feel organ style and social public appeal gap.Identity change,Can make the writing more easier.Because of the administrative organ which do not encourage officials personality,Many of our slogan hope innovation,In fact as an administrative official,Focuses on the innovation of the execution,Should not the administrative work as a general theory to explore,Should not have too much administrative arbitrary.(Selects and figure reporter lu)

　　(来源:广州日报)

(Sources: guangzhou daily)