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山大校长:大学排名榜只具参考性不具科学性--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2013-01-10

  图为山东大学校长徐显明接受媒体采访。 梁犇 摄 The graph is the shandong university President XuXianMing media interview.梁犇 perturbation

  图为山东大学校长徐显明接受专访采访,回答本网记者问题,解析何谓“世界一流大学”。 梁犇 摄 The graph is the shandong university President XuXianMing interview interview,To answer this reporter,What is the analytical"World class university".梁犇 perturbation

  中新网济南1月9日电(李欣)如何看待当前流行的多种版本“中国大学排名榜”?到底什么是判别大学的关键标准?中国目前到底有没有世界一流大学?全国人大常委、知名教育家、山东大学校长徐显明今日就上述问题接受了本网记者专访。

Beijing jinan on January 9,(Li xin)How to treat the current popular versions"The Chinese university rankings"?What is the key of the university judging standard?China does have a world-class university?The National People's Congress standing committee/The famous educator/Shandong university President XuXianMing accepted our reporter interviews today on the above issues.

  

中国时下流行的几个“大学排名榜” China nowadays popularity of a few"University rankings"

  针对当前受到各方关注的多种版本“中国大学排名榜”,全国人大常委、山东大学校长徐显明认为,当下流行的各种版本的“中国大学排名榜”,只具参考性,不具科学性,对大学排名是很危险的,弄不好容易对公众形成误导。

In view of the current versions of concern to interested parties"The Chinese university rankings",The National People's Congress standing committee/Shandong university President XuXianMing think,Various versions of the popular right now"The Chinese university rankings",Only a reference,Has no scientific,About university ranking is very dangerous,Lane is bad to form a misleading to the public.

  在回答本网记者有关提问时,徐显明介绍说,中国现在有影响的排名榜大概有几个。一是上海交大高等教育研究院发布的世界一流大学排名榜,使用英文,采用了几个核心的数据,主要是科研和人才。这个排行榜对欧洲影响很大,甚至影响了欧洲的一些高等教育政策。二是武汉大学生产力研究中心的大学排行榜。三是“校友网”做的。第四家,也是饱受批评的武书连,这个排行谤搞得比较早,但是几个丑闻导致大家对那个排行榜有所疑问。每当高考结束以后,需要填报志愿的时候他就推出一个排行榜。大家怀疑它有很强的商业目的。最近听说山东有个高教研究所也在做这样的事情。世界上比较有名的大学排名榜,一个是美国的,另一个是英国的。

When our reporter related questions,XuXianMing said,China now has the influence of the rankings are probably a few.One is issued by the Shanghai jiaotong university institute of higher education in the world first-class university rankings,Use English,Using a few core data,Mainly is the scientific research and talent.The list had a great influence on Europe,Even some of the European higher education policy.The second is the productivity research center, wuhan university of university ranking.3 it is"Alumni network"To do the.The fourth house,And criticism of the book,This ranking men get earlier,But several scandal led to everyone on the list have questions.Every time after the college entrance examination,Need fill volunteer when he launched a list.We suspect that it has a strong commercial purposes.Recently heard of shandong province has a higher education institute and doing such a thing.The more famous university ranks in the world,One is in the United States,Another is in the UK.

  

自信的大学对排名榜的态度:不为所动 Confidence of the university's attitude to the seller:bait

  徐显明说,作为一个大学校长,我对这些大学排名的态度是:每一个排行榜都不可能把大学的真实水平排列出来。所以就目前世界的大学排名体系来说,还没有一个真正能够让人共同信服的标准。所以说对大学排名是很危险的,做不好就是一种误导。

XuXianMing said,As a university President,My attitude is that of the university rankings:Each list can't be true horizontal arrangement of the university.So the world university rankings,Don't have a real common convincing standard can let a person.So the university ranking is very dangerous,Do not is a kind of misleading.

  这些排名,只具参考性,不具科学性,容易对公众形成误导。徐显明认为,只要你是一个有自持力的大学、有自信的大学,就不会为这些排行榜所动。我想,名列上述几个排行榜前列的大学校长们,对这些排行榜所持的态度应该和我大同小异。

These rankings,Only a reference,Has no scientific,Easy to form a misleading to the public.XuXianMing think,As long as you are a indignation of the university/Have confidence in the university,I would not be moved by these charts.I want to,Among the above several rankings of the university President,Of these charts attitudes should be the same with me.

  不同的大学因为他提供不同的产品、提供不同的社会价值,把不同的社会价值放在一起排,排第一、第二、第三显然也是不科学的。所以大学里面具有可比性的应该是学科,同学科可以进行比较,但是世界上恰恰缺一个同学科的排名。

Different university because he provide different products/Provide different social value,The different social value together,In the first/The second/The third is not scientific.So the university should be comparable in subject,Are compared with subjects,But just lack of a with the subject in the world rankings.

  现在美国的ESI大学排名,大概就是为了弥补这一缺陷,按照同一学科对大学进行排列。所以,一所大学进入ESI排行榜前列,基本上表明这所大学学科水平在世界上的突出地位。

Now the ESI university rankings in the United States,Is probably in order to make up for the defects,According to the same subject for university.so,A university in ESI rankings,Basically that the university discipline level in the outstanding position in the world.

  所以对大学进行排名第一很危险,第二结论只具参考性,不具科学性,不具准确性。第三,大学还要重视、还要对这个排名给予一定的关注。但是第四大学要不为这个排名所动,不会因为这个排名而改变自己的发展战略。

So on university ranking first is dangerous,The second conclusion is only a reference,Has no scientific,Don't have the accuracy.The third,University will pay more attention to/But also to the attention of the rankings given certain.But the fourth university or by the rankings,Will not change myself because of the rankings of the development strategy.

  

徐显明提出关于“世界一流大学”的评价标准 XuXianMing about are put forward"World class university"The evaluation criteria

  徐显明主张用一种模糊标准对大学进行评价:受人尊重的大学,应该就是世界一流大学,他认为,这与欧美通行观念相近:

XuXianMing advocate using a fuzzy standard for evaluation of university:Respected university,Should be a world class university,He thought that,Europe and the United States and the prevailing idea:

  何谓“受人尊重的大学”?

What is the"Respected university"?

  徐显明解释说,第一,大学要有大道德。所谓有大道德,就是大学应该收藏社会良心,是人间的一片净土。大学经不起丑闻,如果一所大学天天处在风口浪尖上、天天有丑闻,这所大学名气再大也不受人尊重。

XuXianMing explained,The first,University should have great moral.What a great moral,Is the university should collect social conscience,Is a piece of pure land on earth.The university can't afford to scandal,If a university every day on outlet wave/Every day there are scandals,The university famous again big also is not respected.

  第二,大学须有大学问。大学是人类知识的宝库,人们在其他地方遇到问题,解决不了,可以到这里面找到答案。

The second,University must be asked.University is the treasure house of human knowledge,People in other places have problems,Can't be solved,Can find the answer to it.

  第三,大学应该敢于承担社会责任。它是社会的灯塔,它是社会的思想库,当包括政府在内的社会其他地方良心都坏了的时候。比如北洋政府,竟然和日本人签署秘密的《二十一条》,当时民族的良心在哪儿?在大学。所以大学出来把这个良心表现出来,这就是“五四运动”。

The third,University should dare to assume social responsibility.It is the beacon of the society,It is the think tank of the society,When including the government, social conscience elsewhere is broken.Such as beiyang government,Unexpectedly and Japanese signed the secret[Article 21:],Where was the nation's conscience?In the university.So college came out the conscience,This is the"The may fourth movement".

  第四,贡献一流的科研成果为社会需要,贡献一流的人才成为国家和民族的栋梁。

The fourth,Contribute the first-class scientific research for the social needs,Contribute the first-class talented person to become the pillars of the country and nation.

  所有这些要素合起来,我相信这所大学就是受人尊重的,这就是世界一流大学。

All these elements together,I believe that the university is respectable,This is a world class university.

  

中国最优秀大学与世界一流大学的差距 China's most outstanding university and the gap between the world-class university

  中国现在到底有没有世界一流大学?徐显明认为,中国现在正在产生世界一流大学。但是我们最优秀的大学和那些顶级的世界一流大学相比,确实存在着较大差距。

China now whether the world first-class university?XuXianMing think,China is now produce the world first-class university.But we are the best compared with those of world class universities in the top university,Indeed there is a large gap.

  第一个差别是大学理念上的差别。大学理念、大学精神,在这点上我们有差距。国外大学就是一个学术共同体,知识共同体,思想共同体,或者价值共同体。说到底是一个学术共同体或者交换知识共同体。

The first difference is that universities concept on the difference.University idea/University spirit,At this point we have a gap.Overseas university is an academic community,Knowledge community,Thought community,Or the value of the community.In the final analysis is an academic community or exchange knowledge community.

  但中国大学的使命比国外的大学要复杂,我们除了是学术共同体、知识共同体之外,还是经济共同体,有时候还是政治共同体。

But the mission of the university of China is larger than that of foreign university to complex,We are in addition to the academic community/Knowledge outside the community,Or economic community,Sometimes or political community.

  第二个差别,我们和世界一流大学最实质性的差别是师资水平的差别。什么世界一流大学?当你拥有世界一流师资的时候,你就是世界一流大学了,没有一流的师资就永远成不了一流的大学。

The second difference,We and the world first-class university teachers is the most substantial difference between the level of difference.What a world-class university?When you have the world first-class faculty,You are the world first-class university,Not the first-class teachers will never become a first-class university.

  中国大学和世界一流大学的第三个区别就是大学体制。中国大学的行政化一直饱受批评。为什么美国拥有那么多的优秀人才,而其他国家包括中国在内没有吸引那么多人来呢?我认为根本还不是物质待遇问题,根本在于大学体制。改变了大学体制,才能凝聚优秀人才。

University of China and the world first-class university the third difference is the university system.Security administration has been criticized at the university of China.Why the United States have so many excellent talents,And other countries, including China, not attract so many people?I think there is not material treatment problem,Root lies in the university system.Change the university system,Can be condensed talents.

  在接受本网记者专访时,徐显明为各项发展均处于第三次辉煌时期的山东大学制定了一个时间表,借鉴加州大学发展模式,山东大学正在创新发展,在中国高校中率先建设包括济南、青岛、威海三个校区和全国若干研究院的“山东大学体系”,争取在十年之内,完成各项指标,初步建成世界一流大学。

In accepting this reporter when the interview,XuXianMing are in third glorious period for the development of shandong university set up a schedule,Drawing lessons from the development model of the university of California,Shandong university is innovation and development,In colleges and universities in China takes the lead in building includes jinan/Qingdao/Weihai three campus and the number of the institute"Shandong university system",In ten years,Achieve the target,Preliminary to be the first-class university in the world.


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